Recapping The 2023 Kentucky Primary

[♪♪] GOOD EVENING.

WELCOME TO KENTUCKY TONIGHT.

I'M RENEE SHAW.

THANKS FOR JOINING US.

TONIGHT, A RECAP OF LAST TUESDAY’S KENTUCKY PRIMARY.

THE HEADLINE OF THE NIGHT: THE EASIER-THAN-EXPECTED WIN BY ATTORNEY GENERAL DANIEL CAMERON, IN THE REPUBLICAN PRIMARY FOR GOVERNOR.

HE NOW GOES ON TO FACE GOVERNOR ANDY BESHEAR IN THE FALL.

THE GOVERNOR JUST WRAPPED UP A THREE-DAY BUS TOUR OF THE STATE, AND STARTED AIRING HIS FIRST TV COMMERCIAL.

WE’LL TALK ABOUT THAT RACE, AND THE OTHER DOWN-BALLOT RACES, WITH TONIGHT’S GUESTS.

WE’RE JOINED, IN OUR LEXINGTON STUDIO, BY: STATE REPRESENTATIVE JASON NEMES, A LOUISVILLE REPUBLICAN AND KENTUCKY HOUSE MAJORITY WHIP; STATE REPRESENTATIVE CHAD AULL, A LEXINGTON DEMOCRAT; JULIA BRIGHT CRIGLER, A REPUBLICAN STRATEGIST AND CONSULTANT, AND FOUNDER OF BRIGHT STRATEGIES; AND MORGAN EAVES, DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST AND EDUCATION CONSULTANT.

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WELCOME TO ALL OF OUR GUESTS.

WELCOME EVERYBODY IT'S ALMOST THE WEEK AFTER.

YOU RECOVERED FROM ALL OF THE STUFF.

SO GLAD TO BE COMING UP ON THE WEEKEND.

AND WE PASS OUR CONDOLENCES TO COLLEAGUE SWAN AND OUR CONDOLENCES.

>> RENTED SWAN WAS A LONG-TERM FRIEND OF MINE AND DEVASTATING EVENT FOR OUR COMMONWEALTH AND HIS CONSTITUENTS AND A LOSS FOR ALL OF US DEEPLY WHO CARED FOR HIM.

>> HE WAS AN EASY PERSON TO GET ALONG WITH.

I DIDN'T KNOW HIM BUT FOR THE TOMB HE WAS SERVING.

HE WAS A PERSON OF GOOD FAITH AND TRIED TO APPROACH THE QUESTIONS BEFORE THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY WITH AN ATTITUDE OF WHAT IS GOING TO HELP THE COMMONWEALTH.

HE WILL BE A LOSS TO KENTUCKY.

>> Renee: OUR THOUGHTS REMAIN WITH THE FAMILY AND OTHERS WHO KNEW AND LOVED HIM.

LET'S TALK ABOUT WHERE WE ARE NOW.

IT SEEMS LIKE MAY 16TH CAME AND GONE REALLY QUICK BECAUSE WE'RE FULL THROTTLE INTO THE FALL CAMPAIGN WE HAVE BUS TOURS AND ADS ON TV.

REPRESENTATIVE AUL LET'S TALK ABOUT YOUR CANDIDATE GOVERNOR ANDY BESHEAR HE DID 12 OR 13 CITIES IN THE LAST TWO OR THREE DAYS HE IS HITTING IT FULL THROTTLE.

>> YEAH, I COMMEND HIM FOR DOING SO.

HE COULD HAVE SAT BACK ON THE LAURELS AND ENJOYED HIS 90% PRIMARY VICTORY THE LARGEST IN THE STATE OF KENTUCKY.

AND WAITED FOR THE CAMPAIGN TO DEVELOP BUT HE GOT OUT THERE AND HE HAD RECORD CROWDS AT THESE EVENTS.

I ATTENDED THE EVENT IN LEXINGTON IT WAS POURING RAIN AT 10:00 A.M. AND WE HAD HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE THAT CAME OUT TO HEAR HIS POSITIVE MESSAGE OF WHAT HE HAS DONE OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS OF THE GOVERNOR OF THE COMMONWEALTH OF KEN KEN.

HIS ECONOMIC RECORD, AND THE RESPONSIVENESS OF THE NATURAL DISASTERS.

I COMMEND HIM FOR GET OUT AND GETTING ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL AND TALKING TO THE VOTERS OF THE COMMONWEALTH.

>> Renee: THE REPUBLICAN ARES REPRESENTATIVE THEM MESS ARE UNIFIED AND WE'VE SEEN YOU ACROSS NEWSCHANNELS TALKING ABOUT HOW UNIFIED YOU ARE AND THE FIGHT TO TAKE UP THE GOVERNOR'S MANSION.

TELL US ABOUT YOUR CANDIDATE AND WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE THE GOVERNOR TO TASK ON, UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE?

OR COVID OR WHAT IS IT OR ALL THE THINGS?

>> WE ARE UNIFIED DANIEL CAMERON WON WITH 48% OF THE VOTE FOUR YEARS AGO AND ANDY BESHEAR WON WITH 37% OF THE VOTE.

EVERY CANDIDATE FROM THE PODIUM CALLED FOR UNITY AND WE'RE PULLING FROM THE SAME SIDE OF THE ROPE FOR DANIEL CAMERON BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT HE SHARES KENTUCKY VALUES.

HE STOOD UP FOR THE THINGS THAT WE BELIEVE IN.

HE IS GOING TO BE A GREAT GOVERNOR ON THE ISSUES THAT ARE MOST IMPORTANT TO KENTUCKY, THE ECONOMY, EDUCATION AND CRIME AND THOSE ARE THE AREAS WHERE THE CURRENT GOVERNOR HAS FAULTERED.

AND I DON'T BLAME THE GOVERNOR FOR GETTING OUT ALL OVER KENTUCKY BECAUSE HE NEEDS TO GET THE STORY OUT FIRST BECAUSE WE ARE ABOUT TO TELL THE TRUTH ON HIM.

>> Renee: WHAT IS THE TRUTH?

>> HE LEADS WITH THE ECONOMY.

BUT THE SINGLE FACT THAT HE IS NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO RUN FROM.

HEMINGWAY SAID YOU CAN RUN AROUND THE WORLD BUT YOU CANNOT RUN AWAY FROM YOURSELF.

HE WILL RUN AROUND KENTUCKY BUT HE WILL NOT RUN FROM HIS RECORD AND THE MOST IMPORTANT FACT ON THE ECONOMY THERE ARE FEWER KENTUCKIANS WORKING TODAY THAN WHEN HE WAS INAUGURATED.

HE LIKES TO TALK ABOUT THE SURPLUS WE HAVE HAD, WHEN WE PASSED THOSE BUDGETS IN THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY HE OPPOSED THEM.

HE TALKS ABOUT HOW HE REDUCED TAXES.

HE VETOED THE BILL HOUSE BILL 8 LAST YEAR THAT REDUCED TAXES.

THIS GOVERNOR IS A GOVERNOR WHO WANTS TO TAX YOU MORE AND SPEND -- >> Renee: BUT HE SIGNED HOUSE BILL 1 THIS YEAR IT IS AN -- >> HE REDUCED THE TAX TAX FROM 5.4% TO 4% AND WE PUT THE APPARATUS IN PLACE WHICH THE GOVERNOR VETOED AND CALLED IRRESPONSIBLE.

WHEN HE IS SAYING TALKING ABOUT THE ECONOMY NOW, BECAUSE THAT IS WHERE HE LEADS WHEN HE IS TALKING ABOUT HE IS THE ECONOMIC GOVERNOR WE HAVE FEWER PEOPLE WORKING TODAY.

AND THE STUFF HE TALKS ABOUT THOSE WERE THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY'S THINGS.

HE IS TRYING TO TAKE CREDIT FOR SOMETHING HE DIDN'T DO HE IS TAKING CREDIT FOR SOMETHING HE ACTIVELY OPPOSED.

HE CAN RUN AROUND THE COMMONWEALTH BUT HE CAN'T RUN AWAY.

>> Renee: I WANT TO GET MS. EAVES PERSPECTIVE ON THIS.

>> GOVERNOR ANDY BESHEAR IS THE ECONOMIC DRIVER IN KENTUCKY.

HE IS THE ONE WHO BROUGHT ALMOST $6 BILLION INVESTMENT FROM FORD, THE LARGEST INVESTMENT IN FORD'S HISTORY RIGHT HERE TO KENTUCKY.

HE HAS CREATED 46,000 JOBS THROUGH THIS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVES AND ATTRACTED THOSE BIG NAMES LIKE FORD.

AND HUGE ELECTRIC VEHICLE PRODUCERS TO KENTUCKY.

WE'RE NOW THE ELECTRIC VEHICLE BATTERY CAPITAL OF THE WORLD.

THAT IS NO SMALL FEAT FOR A STATE WHO NOT THAT LONG AGO WAS CONSIDERED A FLYOVER STATE.

PEOPLE WOULD COME FOR THE DERBY OR BOURBON TOURS AND GO HOME.

NOW PEOPLE ARE MOVING HERE AND INVESTING HERE AND THE FORD'S OF THE WORLD.

>> Renee: IS IT DISINGENUOUS FOR THE GOVERNOR TO TAKE SOLE CREDIT HE IS TAKING CREDIT FOR WHEN THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY PASSED POLICIES HELPED ENABLE THAT?

>> I'M NOT SURE THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY CAN POINT TO POLICIES THAT THEY CAN ATTRACT $8 BILLION FROM FORD WHICH CAME BEFORE THE TAX CUTS.

IT CAME BEFORE THOSE POLICIES.

FORD SAID THAT REALLY ANDY BESHEAR WAS THE DRIVER OF THAT INVESTMENT.

IT DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH WHAT SOME OF THE G.O.P.

FOLKS SAY IS RIGHT TO WORK AND OTHER POLICIES LIKE THAT.

IT WAS BECAUSE OF THE CONVERSATIONS THAT GOVERNOR BESHEAR'S OFFICE WAS HAVING.

>> Renee: MS. CRIGLER?

>> IT'S REMINISCENT IF YOU REMEMBER BACK TO FORMER PRIME MINISTER'S CAMPAIGN HE SAYS HE DID NOT -- BARACK OBAMA, GOVERNMENT DID NOT BUILD THAT.

THIS IS ANDY BESHEAR TAKING CREDIT FOR THE HARD-WORKING KENTUCKIANS BUILT.

>> Renee: DO YOU THINK VOTERS WILL INTERPRET IT THAT WAY?

>> I CAN TELL YOU HISTORICALLY IT DIDN'T WORKOUT SO WELL.

>> Renee: WE CAN SEE A MASH UP OF AN AD IN OUR HEAD.

>> YES.

>> Renee: BACK TO YOU.

>> I WILL JUST SAY IT IS THE GOVERNOR'S JOB TO USE HIS PULPIT TO ATTRACT BUSINESSES TO THE COMMONWEALTH AND ADVANCE HIS POLICY AGENDA.

OF COURSE HE IS NOT A LEGISLATOR.

HE CAN'T VOTE ON POLICY BUT HE CAN SIGN BILLS OR VETO BILLS.

WHEN IT COMES TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT YOU CANNOT SAY HE HAS NOT BEEN A PRO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT GOVERNOR.

WE'VE HAD THREE YEARS IN A ROW OF RECORD ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, INVESTMENT IN OUR COMMONWEALTH.

AND THAT HAS BEEN DURING GOVERNOR BESHEAR'S TIME.

HE IS USING THE TOOLS TO BRING JOBS TO THE COMMONWEALTH.

HE CHOSE TO GO TO FORD TO RECRUIT THEM TO COME AND HAVE THAT RECORD INVESTMENT RIGHT THERE.

AND IT'S NOT JUST THE FORD DEAL THERE'S BEEN RECORD INVESTMENTS EVERYWHERE.

THE LARGEST AMAZON INVESTMENT IS HAPPENING IN NORTHERN KENTUCKY AT THE NORTHERN KENTUCKY CINCINNATI AIRPORT ON OUR SIDE OF THE RIVER.

HUGE OPERATIONS GOING DOWN IN BOWLING GREEN HAS PART OF THAT MANUFACTURING CENTER.

THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOCUS OF THE GOVERNOR HAS BEEN STATE-WIDE AND HE IS USING THE TOOLS THAT ARE AT HIS DISPOSAL AND THAT IS WHAT ANY GOVERNOR IS SUPPOSED TO DO.

>> RENEE WHO IS GOING TO BE FIELDING THESE JOBS?

IT'S NOT GOING TO BE OUR WORKFORCE.

OUR WORKFORCE NEVER WENT BACK TO WORK AFTER COVID.

IT'S THE MAJORITY IN THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY THAT IS HAVING TO CLEAN UP THE MESS FOR WHEN THE GOVERNOR SHUTDOWN THIS ECONOMY TOTALLY.

FARTHER TO THE LEFT THAN EVEN HIS COUNTERPARTS IN BLUE STATES.

HE IS A SITTING DUCK IN A RED STATE HE SHUTDOWN THE ECONOMY AND THE REPUBLICANS IN THE MAJORITY IN THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY ARE HAVING TO CLEAN UP THE MESS AND FIELD OUT THE WORKFORCE ISSUES THAT WE'RE HAVING WITH LABOR PARTICIPATION.

>> Renee: BUT YET HIS FAVORABLES ARE STRONG HE IS HIGHLY REGARDED AS A GOVERNOR NOT JUST AS A DEMOCRATIC GOVERNOR.

>> HE STILL GETS ELECTED OVERWHELMINGLY.

>> AND GOVERNOR BESHEAR'S NUMBERS ARE HIGH BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT PUT A GLOVE ON HIM YET WE HAVE NOT STARTED TELLING THE TRUTH YET.

>> Renee: THAT STARTED IN THE PRIMARY CAMPAIGN.

>> NOT IN EARNEST.

MY FRIEND SAID CAN WE IDENTIFY ANYTHING?

I WANT TO NOTE BEFORE 2017 WHEN REPUBLICANS TOOK OVER THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY WE HAD $2 BILLION A YEAR IN INVESTMENT.

SINCE THEN IN 2017 IT WENT FROM 6 TO $8 BILLION A YEAR UNDER THE BEVIN AND BESHEAR ADMINISTRATION.

I'M NOT GOING TO SIT HERE AND ATTACK KENTUCKY WE HAVE GREAT THINGS GOING FOR US.

WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE WORLD.

WE HAVE U.P.S., WE HAVE THE RIVER, GREAT TRANSPORTATION.

I WILL NOT DOWNGRADE KENTUCKY.

>> Renee: YOU ARE SAYING WE HAVE LAZY KENTUCKIANS WITH LOW WORKFORCE PARTICIPATION?

>> WE DO HAVE LOW WORKFORCE PARTICIPATION.

>> Renee: AND WHOSE FAULT IS THAT.

>> ANDY BESHEAR'S POLICY.

THIS IS THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION NUMBERS.

THIS ISN'T THEM MESS' NUMBERS.

THERE ARE 24,000 FEWER KENTUCKIANS WORKING TODAY THAN WHEN HE WAS INAUGURATED THAT IS THE FACT THAT IS THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION NUMBERS.

AND WHAT POLICIES BRING BUSINESS TO KENTUCKY.

RIGHT TO WORK IS ONE OF THEM.

THAT WASN'T ONE FOR FORD BUT FOR OTHERS.

WE REVAMPED UNEMPLOYMENT AND MADE UNEMPLOYMENT AFFORDABLE.

THAT WAS HOUSE BILL 2 FROM 2018.

WORKERS COMPENSATION REFORM WAS ANOTHER BIG BILL THAT WE PUT TOGETHER.

ALL THE TAX POLICIES.

THE SPENDING POLICIES.

REMEMBER WHEN THE DEMOCRATS HAD THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY OUR BOND RATING WAS GETTING HIT EVERY FEW YEARS WE HAVE HAD TWO IMPROVEMENTS TO THE BOND RATING?

WHY?

BECAUSE WE ARE NOT SPENDING WE DON'T HAVE.

WE DON'T HAVE BUDGETARY GIMMICKS THOSE ARE REPUBLICAN LEGISLATIVE EFFORTS.

GOVERNOR BESHEAR IS THE BENEFICIARY OF THOSE POLICIES AND I AM GLAD I WANT KENTUCKY TO DO WELL BUT I WILL NOT ALLOW HIM TO GO TO BLACK MOUNTAIN BEATING HIS CHEST AND ACTING LIKE HE IS THE ONE THAT DID THESE THINGS.

HE DIDN'T.

SAME THING WITH MEDICAL MARIJUANA A LOT OF PEOPLE THE PEOPLE WATCHING KNOW, THAT I WAS THE PRINCIPLE SUPPORTER OF MEDICAL MARIJUANA WITH SENATOR WES IN THE SENATE AND ANDY BESHEAR NOR CALLED ME IN FIVE YEARS WHEN HE WAS ATTORNEY GENERAL OR THE GOVERNOR.

HE IS BEATING HIS CHEST SEE THIS IS HOW I CAN GET THINGS DONE.

>> Renee: HAD HE NOT ISSUED THE EXECUTIVE ORDER WOULD HAVE ACTED?

>> WHEN I WAS WORKING FOR THE BESHEAR ADMINISTRATION WE HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT HOW THE BESHEAR ADMINISTRATION WAS A PRO-ACTIVE SUPPORTER OF MEDICAL MARIJUANA.

SAME THING WITH THE SPONSORS OF SPORTS BETTING.

WE ACTUALLY HAVE PRESS CONFERENCES DURING THE FIRST FEW MONTHS OF HIS ADMINISTRATION ABOUT THOSE ISSUES AND THEY WERE BIPARTISAN.

TO SAY THAT THE COMMUNICATION WAS NONEXISTENT.

>> IT'S TRUE.

>> IS NOT CORRECT.

>> NO, IT IS TRUE.

>> AND THE GOVERNOR HIGHLIGHTED IN HIS STATE OF THE COMMONWEALTH ADDRESS BOTH OF THOSE ISSUES.

THE GOVERNOR IS NOT A LEGISLATOR.

HE CANNOT INTRODUCE LEGISLATION.

CAN HE NOT VOTE ON LEGISLATION.

HIS JOB AS THE CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER IS USE HIS BULLYPULPIT TO ADVANCE POLICY HE THINKS IS GOOD AND HE DID THAT FOR BOTH MEDICAL MARIJUANA AND SPORTS GAMING.

THE COMMENTS ARE NOT THE FACTS.

>> I AM THE PRINCIPLE SPONSOR HE DIDN'T HAVE ANYBODY AT THE TABLE.

MY QUESTION WAS IS IT OK TO MOVE THIS FROM ABC TO THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH.

THEY SAID YES.

THAT IS ALL THEY DID.

THEY DIDN'T LOOK AT IT AND SAY COLORADO HAS THIS OR CONNECTICUT HAS THAT.

>> YOU DON'T HAVE A TASK FORCE ON MEDICAL MARIJUANA HAD TOWN HALLS AND THIS WHOLE THING PREVIOUS YEAR PRIOR TO THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY ADVANCING THAT LEGISLATIVE AGENDA.

HE ABSOLUTELY DID WHAT HE WAS SUPPOSED TO DO TO FURTHER ALONG AND MAKE MEDICAL MARIJUANA A POSSIBILITY THAT LED INTO MOMENTUM TO GET IT PASSED.

IT HAD BEEN STALLED FOR YEARS.

>> NOT A SINGLE LEGISLATOR WAS NOT ON THAT COMMITTEE.

YOU KNOW HOW LEGISLATION WORKS IT INCHES FORWARD AND THAT IS WHAT IT DID.

>> Renee: LET'S PUT A PIN IN THAT WE ARE NOT RELITIGATING MEDICAL MARIJUANA.

WE'LL SAVE THAT WE'LL GET AROUND TO THAT BECAUSE THERE WILL BE TWEAKS TO THAT MEASURE WE ASSUME.

BUT LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT DANIEL CAMERON COULD DO FOR KENTUCKY.

WE HEARD WHAT ANDY BESHEAR IS OR IS NOT DOING WHAT DOES DANIEL CAMERON STAND FOR?

>> I THINK DANIEL CAMERON HAS SHOWN WHAT HE STANDS FOR.

WITH RESPECT TO HIS OFFICE OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL, HE HAS DONE A LOT ON FENTANYL ERADICATION.

HE HAS DONE A NUMBER OF THINGS ON CHILD AND TRAFFICKING.

AND HUMAN TRAFFICKING.

HE'S SUPPORTED THE BILLS THAT WE'VE PASSED WHEREAS ANDY BESHEAR HAS SUED US ON THE BILLS WHETHER THAT IS PRO-LIFE BILL OR THE SAYING BOYS CAN'T PLAY SPORTS AGAINST GIRLS, SENATE BILL 150 SAYING A NUMBER OF THINGS AND ONE IS WE'RE NOT GOING TO ALLOW BOYS TO BE IN DRESSING ROOMS WITH GIRLS AND THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE TRANSGENDER REASSIGNMENT SURGERY.

THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT -- >> Renee: WHICH WASN'T HAPPENING TO MINORS IN KENTUCKY.

>> IT WAS HAPPENING, YES IT WAS.

SO DANIEL CAMERON SUPPORTS THOSE MEASURES.

AND ANDY BESHEAR OPPOSES THOSE MEASURES.

THERE IS A STARK DIFFERENCE WHERE ARE YOU VALUES.

AND WE KNOW WHERE DANIEL CAMERON STANDS HE STANDS WITH THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS IN KENTUCKY AND ANDY BESHEAR DOESN'T.

HE IS ANDY BESHEAR WANTS EVERYBODY TO THINK HE IS A MODERATE GOT HIS PLAID SHIRT ON HE IS A SAN FRANCISCO DEMOCRAT.

HE CAN RUN ON THINGS WHEN YOU SUPPORT A BOY PLAYING SPORTS AGAINST A GIRL YOU ARE NOT IN LINE WITH KENTUCKY VALUES.

>> THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS WE CAN TALK ABOUT POLICY WISE, ANDY BESHEAR GREW UP HERE IN LEXINGTON KENTUCKY AND WENT TO HENRY CLAY HIGH SCHOOL AND CALLING HIM A SAN FRANCISCO DEMOCRAT IS NOT FAIR.

HE IS AS COMMONWEALTH AND THROUGH AND THROUGH AS ANYBODY ELSE.

AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE SOCIAL CONTROVERSIAL ISSUES ALL NIGHT LONG BUT PEOPLE EXPECT THEIR GOVERNOR TO BE A LEADER WHEN TIMES ARE TOUGH.

BUT BAD THINGS HAPPEN AND THERE'S BEEN NO GOVERNOR IN THE HISTORY OF THE COMMONWEALTH WHO HAS DEMONSTRATED THAT ABILITY TO LEAD THROUGH PROBLEMS THAN GOVERNOR BESHEAR FROM THE PANDEMIC, TO THE TORNADOES IN WESTERN KENTUCKY, TO THE DEVASTATING FLOODS IN EASTERN KENTUCKY.

NO GOVERNORS METTLE HAS BEEN TESTED.

HE HAS STEPPED UP AND HIS TEAM STEPPED UP EACH TIME AND HANDLED THOSE DISASTERS AS WELL AS ANYBODY REASONABLY COULD HANDLE IN OUR COMMONWEALTH.

>> Renee: LET'S TAKE THOSE ONE AT A TIME.

COVID, PEOPLE FEEL THE RESTRICTIONS WENT ON TOO LONG AND TOO STRONG.

>> INCLUDING THE SUPREME COURT.

>> Renee: TALK TO US ABOUT HOW HE IS GOING TO DEFEND WHETHER OR NOT HE MISHANDLED THE COVID SITUATION?

>> I THINK AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE GOVERNOR WOULD SAY HE MADE DECISIONS THAT HE THOUGHT WAS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF KENTUCKIANS TO SAVE LIVES.

PERIOD.

IF THAT COSTS HIM THE REELECTION HE IS OK WITH THAT BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY YOUR JOB IS TO SAVE LIVES.

>> THAT IS NOT YOUR JOB IT'S PART OF YOUR JOB AND THE OTHER JOB IS TO PROTECT OUR LIBERTIES.

LAST WEEK THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT CHASTISED OUR GOVERNOR FOR ONE OF THE WORST VIOLATIONS OF CIVIL RIGHTS IN THE UNITED STATES HISTORY THAT WAS LAST WEEK IN THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT.

THE KENTUCKY SUPREME COURT RULED AGAINST THIS GOVERNOR 7-0.

I GIVE ANDY BESHEAR A TWO-FOUR WEEK PASS.

NOBODY KNEW WHAT WAS GOING ON AT FIRST.

WE WENT WAY TOO FAR THE SUPREME COURT SAYS THAT.

OUR TAXPAYERS ARE ON THE HOOK FOR MORE THAN A MILLION DOLLARS IN ATTORNEY'S FEES FOR HIS EXCESSES.

PROTESTS, HE LED A BLM PROTEST WITHOUT A MASK ON.

Dr. STACK WAS ASKED IN A DEPOSITION SHOWN A PICTURE DOES THIS VIOLATE THE GOVERNOR'S ORDER AND THE DOCTOR SAID THE GOVERNOR VIOLATED HIS OWN ORDER.

THE TRAVEL BAN YOU COULD NOT GO ACROSS THE RIVER AND THE JUDGE SAID YOU ARE TELLING ME IF I WALK ACROSS THE BRIDGE I'M COMMITTING A CRIME?

YES.

HE GOT BEAT ON THAT.

WHEN PEOPLE WENT TO CHURCH ON EASTER THIS GOVERNOR HAD OUR KENTUCKY STATE POLICE TROOPER SOME CRIED WHAT I SPOKE WITH THEM ABOUT ENFORCING THIS HE IS GOING TO WRITE DOWN THE LICENSE PLATE AND THREATEN THEM FOR A YEAR IN JAIL.

HE THREATENED PEOPLE TO GO TO JAIL FOR ONE YEAR IF THEY WENT TO CHURCH ON EASTER.

I GIVE A PASS ON A LOT OF EARLY STUFF BUT THAT WAS WAY TOO FAR.

AND LOOK AT THE LEARNING LOSS OUR KIDS ARE EXPERIENCING TODAY.

OUR SCHOOLS WERE ONE OF THE LAST TO REOPEN.

HERE IS HOW BAD IT GOT FROM THE GOVERNOR'S MANSION.

WHEN SOME OF THE SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS WANTED TO REOPEN HE THREATENED TO HAVE THEM REMOVED.

HE WENT TOOTOO FAR ON COVID.

I DIDN'T MENTION THE UNEMPLOYMENT DEBACLE HE HAD TO TAKE IT AWAY FROM HIS LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR IT WAS SO BIG.

IF I WERE HIM I WOULD RUN AWAY FROM COVID THAT IS OUR STRONGEST ARGUMENT THIS GOVERNOR DID NOT PROTECT KENTUCKY CIVIL LIBERTIES.

>> Renee: IT SEEMS HE WILL EMBRACE HIS DECISIONS AND ACTIONS.

>> IF YOU LOOK AT EVEN THE FIRST SIX MONTHS OF GOVERNOR BESHEAR'S DAILY PRESS CONFERENCES HE ACKNOWLEDGED THE DECISIONS HE WAS MAKING WERE GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT HIS POLITICAL ENEMIES WERE GOING TO COME AFTER HIM FOR IN THE FUTURE.

NOT MANY PUBLIC SERVANTS OR ANY PEOPLE IN GENERAL WOULD MAKE THOSE KIND OF LIFE AND DEATH DECISIONS.

TO SAY TO MONDAY MORNING QUARTERBACK AND SAY IT WAS TOO HARSH DOES A DISSERVICE TO THE 18600 KENTUCKIANS THAT WERE LOST TO COVID.

THAT NUMBER COULD HAVE BEEN HIGHER IF GOVERNOR BESHEAR DID NOT TAKE THE MEASURES HE DID.

HE WOULD RATHER AND HE ACKNOWLEDGED THE MEASURES HE TOOK WERE NOT INSIGNIFICANT AND DID NOT COST PEOPLE ANY INSIGNIFICANT AMOUNT.

HE UNDERSTOOD THE DAMAGE THAT HE WAS POTENTIALLY DOING TO BUSINESSES AND LIVELIHOODS.

BUT WHEN IT'S ABOUT LIFE OR DEATH IT IS A MUCH MORE SERIOUS MATTER.

AND HE UNDERSTOOD THAT.

HE WAS WILLING TO MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION TO PROTECT PEOPLE'S LIVES, AGAIN THAT 18600 NUMBER WOULD HAVE BEEN HIGHER IF HE HAD NOT ACTED.

>> Renee: MANY WOULD SAY WHEN WE THINK ABOUT THE PRO-LIFE POSITION THAT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY SEEMS TO HAVE IS THAT JUST FOR BIRTH ONLY?

>> I DON'T THINK BIG BOX STORES WERE ANYMORE IMMUNE TO COVID THAN SMALL BUSINESSES WERE.

I.

>> Renee: WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH PRO-LIFE?

>> BECAUSE IT WAS PICKING WINNERS AND LOSERS AS IF IT WAS DRIVEN BY SCIENCE AND IT WASN'T, RENEE.

IF WE ARE GOING BELIEVE SCIENCE AND FOLLOW THE FACTS, WERE YOU ANYMORE OR LESS LIKELY TO GET COVID GOING TO TARGET OR COSTCO THAN YOU WERE DOWN THE STREET TO YOUR LOCAL GROCER?

I DON'T THINK SO.

WE WERE PICKING WINNERS AND LOSERS IN COVID.

AND TO SAY THAT THAT SOMEHOW WAS RELATED TO LIFE OR DEATH, I JUST I DON'T THINK YOUR AVERAGE EVERYDAY KENTUCKIAN WHO LOST WAGES LOST HOURS ARE STILL TRYING TO REBUILD THEIR OWN ECONOMY WITH THEIR FAMILIES FROM COVID ARE GOING TO LOOK AT IT THAT WAY.

>> Renee: MAYBE THE 18600 MIGHT VIEW IT DIFFERENTLY WHO DID LOSE SOMEONE FROM COVID.

>> WE'RE PAYING FOR IT.

ALL THE 18600 SOME OF THEM, I DON'T KNOW THE NUMBER, BUT NOT ALL OF THEM DIED BECAUSE OF COVID SOME DIED WITH COVID BUT WE ARE PAYING FOR THE COST OF THE GOVERNOR'S BAD DECISIONS THROUGH LEARNING LOSS, MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES, CRIME IS SPIKING.

>> Renee: TO THAT POINT ABOUT MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES WHY HASN'T THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY FUND THE SCHOOL SAFETY ACT WAS PASSED IN 2019 WITH A PLEDGE THAT THE SECTION THERE AFTER THERE WOULD BE MONEY FOR MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES THAT HAS YET TO COME FROM THE ASSEMBLY.

>> WE HAVE INCREASED THE NUMBER OF DOLLARS THAT THE SCHOOL BOARDS GET AND SOME CAN BE USED FOR MENTAL HEALTH.

THIS NEXT YEAR WE PUT A GROUP TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE WE ARE FUNDING THAT.

WE HAVE TO DO THAT.

AND WE HAVE TO FUND ARMED OFFICERS IN OUR SCHOOLS THAT IS A SCHOOL SAFETY MEASURE THERE IS NO DOUBT WE NEED TO DO MORE.

WHAT I'M SAYING IS LOOK WHAT HIS DECISIONS HAVE ROUGHT AND IT IS NOT FAIR TO SAY MONDAY MORNING QUARTERBACKING.

A LOT OF PEOPLE WENT TO THE COURTS AND WON.

THE GOVERNOR WENT TOO FAR ON COVID.

>> Renee: WHAT OTHER THAN COVID?

YOU MENTIONED REPRESENTATIVE THEM MESS ABOUT CRIME.

YOU WANT TO EXPOUND WHERE THAT COULD GO.

>> WITH CRIME WE HAVE A SPIKE RURAL AREAS IN KENTUCKY I'M FROM LOUISVILLE AND WE FOCUS IN JEFFERSON COUNTY AND CHAD KNOWS THE LEXINGTON NUMBERS.

BUT RURAL NUMBERS ARE UP 70% IN VIOLENT CRIME AND JEFFERSON CRIME THEY ARE THROUGH THE ROOF.

IN 2021 THE LATEST NUMBERS I HAVE THERE WERE 124 STUDENTS, KIDS UNDER 18 THAT GOT SHOT.

23 OF THOSE WERE SHOT AND KILLED.

CRIME IS THROUGH THE ROOF AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS GOVERNOR HAS DONE ABOUT IT.

WHEN WE HAD A SHOOTING AT THE BANK AND IT WAS A TRAGEDY, ABSOLUTE TRAGEDY, THE GOVERNOR TWEETED WITHIN FIVE MINUTES AND RAN TO A CAMERA.

WHAT I'M SAYING IS WHERE IS THAT RESPONSE FOR THE HUNDREDS OF KIDS WHO ARE BEING SHOT DOZENS GETTING SHOT AND KILLED?

WHERE IS THE DECLARATION OF EMERGENCY?

WHERE IS WORKING WITH THE LMPD AND USING KENTUCKY STATE POLICE TO DO SOMETHING.

WE HAVE NOT DONE ANYTHING ON THAT.

>> WELL, SO, ONE THING, REPRESENTATIVE THEM MESS WILL YOU WORK WITH ME ON GUN SAFETY LEGISLATION?

>> I'M WORKING RIGHT NOW WITH IT.

I'VE BEEN SPEAKING WITH PEOPLE.

IF YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT A GUN GRAB.

>> I'M TALKING ABOUT COMMON SENSE GUN REFORM.

>> WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE GOVERNOR WHY HASN'T THE GOVERNOR REACHED OUT.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT HE SUPPORTS.

HE DOESN'T CALL THE LEGISLATURE AND HERE IS THE THINGS I THINK WE CAN DO BETTER.

>> THE GOVERNOR RAN TO A CAMERA, THE GOVERNOR IS ON RECORD ONE OF THE VICTIMS IN THE SHOOTING WAS ONE OF HIS BEST FRIENDS WHO MADE THAT VERY TOUGH CALL TO THAT SPOUSE OF THAT PERSON.

THAT IS A VERY PERSONAL SITUATION AND SPOT FOR THE GOVERNOR TO BE IN AND A TOUGH, TOUGH SITUATION.

BUT THE GOVERNOR IS NOT THE POLICE CHIEF OF LEXINGTON OR LOUISVILLE OR THESE OTHER RURAL COUNTIES THEY HAVE SHERIFFS.

THE ONE THING THE GOVERNOR HAS DONE HE ADVOCATED FOR AND GOT IN ONE OF THE LAST BUDGETS $15,000 RAISE FOR THE STATE POLICE.

THAT WAS ONE OF THE MOST SIGNIFICANT RAISES IN THE HISTORY OF THE STATE POLICE SECRETARY AGENCY.

THAT HELPED WITH RECRUITING NEW POLICE OFFICERS WORK ON RETAINING STATE POLICE OFFICERS TO HELP IN RURAL KENTUCKY.

AND THE GOVERNOR HAS BEEN SUPPORTIVE OF THAT.

HE TALKS ABOUT IT ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL BECAUSE IT IS A PRIORITY.

WE HAVE TO DO WHAT WE CAN TO BOLSTER THE STATE POLICE FORCE AROUND THE COMMONWEALTH AND THE GOVERNOR DOES THAT.

>> WE HAVE ONE OF THE BEST POLICE FORCES IN THE COUNTRY.

I WOULD ALSO NOTE BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MENTAL HEALTH, THE GOVERNOR CUT MEDICAID REIMBURSE.

RATES FOR BEHAVIORAL HEALTH THAT IS NOT THE DIRECTION WE NEED TO BE HEADED.

THIS GOVERNOR AND I DIDN'T CRITICIZE HIM FOR THE BANK.

I'M OPPOSING THAT AGAINST WHAT HE HAS NOT DONE.

>> YOU SAY HE RAN TO A CAMERA.

>> FAIR POINT.

BUT WHAT HE HAS NOT DONE WITH THE HUNDREDS OF KIDS, HUNDREDS OF KIDS GETTING SHOT IN JEFFERSON COUNTY EVERY YEAR, AND GOVERNOR BESHEAR, FIND A QUOTE, FIND ANYTHING HE HAS DONE.

HE HAS DONE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

AND THESE ARE MY KIDS OUR KIDS AND JEFFERSON COUNTY SHOOTING AND KILLING THEMSELVES.

>> Renee: WHAT ABOUT LOCAL CONTROL REPRESENTATIVE?

IF YOU ARE HAVING THAT ISSUE WHY ISN'T THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT HANDLING IT?

>> CONSENT CONSENT DECREE IN LOUISVILLE WHY DOESN'T THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY HANDLE IT?

>> WE HAVE GIVEN MORE MONEY TO THE STATE POLICE.

HE IS THE EXECUTIVE OFFICER.

HIS JOB WHEN LOUISVILLE IS NOT DOING IT AND I'M HOPING GREENBURG DOES AND I HAVE FAITH IN HIM AND HOPE OUR PREVIOUS MAYOR MAYOR FISHER DID ABSOLUTELY NOTHING BUT GOVERNOR BESHEAR HAS A RESPONSIBILITY WHEN THIS IS HAPPENING.

WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT WHETHER THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE BIKE LANES THE GOVERNOR SHOULD NOT INTERVENE IN THAT.

THE GOVERNOR BUT WHEN HUNDREDS OF OUR KIDS ARE GETTING SHOT THE GOVERNOR HAS AN OBLIGATION TO INTERVENE AND HE HAS NOT DONE IT.

GIVE ME ONE THING HE SAID.

COME TO THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY AND GIVE US POLICIES HOW TO REDUCE CRIME IN LOUISVILLE.

>> Renee: THIS QUESTION FROM DAVE DOESN'T THE ATTORNEY GENERAL HAVE RESPONSIBILITY WHEN IT COMES TO THE RISE IN CRIME?

HE IS THE CHIEF LAW ENFORCEMENT?

>> THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION.

THE ATTORNEY GENERAL DOES NOT HAVE INDEPENDENT PROSECUTORIAL THROAT HE CANNOT OWE THROAT AND THE 7 THE ATTORNEY GENERAL IS NOT IN CHARGE OF THE STATE POLICE.

THE GOVERNOR IS.

WE KNOW -- >> Renee: WE WOULD SEND THEM FROM WHERE?

>> ON SOMETHING LIKE THIS WHEN WE HAVE HUNDREDS OF KIDS SHOOTING EACH OTHER, YOU SAID THEM FROM PA DUKE KA AND PIKEVILLE, AND E TOWN PROTECT OUR KIDS.

>> Renee: SO THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO CHOOSE WHETHER OR NOT THEY WOULD RELOCATE YOU PICK FOLKS TO COME FROM REMOTE AREAS.

>> THERE ARE EXECUTIVE ORDERS IN THE PAST.

>> DECLARE AN EMERGENCY AND HELP LOUISVILLE.

HELP OUR PEOPLE.

WE'RE SHOOTING EACH OTHER.

WHAT I'M SAYING IS THIS...

THIS GOVERNOR HASN'T BEEN SERIOUS ON CRIME.

HE'S NEVER PRESENTED A PLAN TO THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY ON GUN REFORMS.

>> Renee: SO THAT POINT YOUR CANDIDATE DANIEL CAMERON ONE OF HIS PRIMARY COMPETITORS WENT AFTER HIM OR A PAC IN HER SUPPORTING HER WENT AFTER HIM BECAUSE HE WAS SMART ON CRIME LEGISLATION.

WE REMEMBER EDITORIALS HE WROTE YEARS BEFORE HE RAN FOR ATTORNEY GENERAL SUPPORTING MORE REASONABLE CRIME MEASURES.

>> THAT'S RIGHT.

>> WHAT IS MOSTLY FOCUSED ON NONVIOLENT AND NOT SEXUAL OFFENDERS.

>> I AM A STRONG PROPONENT WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT IS DRUG ADDICTS HOW YOU GET THEM AWAY FROM BEING ADDICTED.

MOSTLY PETTY CRIME, SERIOUS, NEEDS TO BE HANDLED.

THAT IS NOT THE VIOLENT STUFF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

>> THE ARGUMENT IS THAT FEN 23458 AND OPIOID -- FENTANYL AND OPIOID USAGE SKYROCKETED UNDER DANIEL CAMERON'S AUTHORITY AS ATTORNEY GENERAL IT IS A LITTLE BIT DISINGENUOUS TO SAY HE IS THE LAW AND ORDER CANDIDATE.

AND HE'S REALLY ATTACKED FOLKS ON OPIOIDS AND PUT DRUG DEALERS AWAY.

WHICH BY THE WAY, HIS CAMPAIGN ANNOUNCED A POLL TODAY IN WHICH THEY COULD NOT SPELL THE WORD OPIOIDS.

SO HE LOSES A BIT OF CREDIBILITY.

>> YOU KNOW THAT'S THE POSTER THAT DOES THAT STUFF.

I'M THROUGH THE LOOKINGGLASS.

DANIEL CAMERON IS THE ATTORNEY GENERAL.

HE DOES NOT HEAD AN AGENCY OF A THOUSAND TROOPERS.

ANDY BESHEAR DOES.

ANDY BESHEAR HAS NOT DONE ANYTHING ON CRIME IN LOUISVILLE I DON'T KNOW IF HE HAS IN LEXINGTON.

NOTHING IN LOUISVILLE ZERO.

AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT HE HAS DONE ON OPIOIDS.

AS ATTORNEY GENERAL HE SUED OPIOID COMPANIES.

BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT HE HAS DONE.

BUT WHATEVER ATTORNEY GENERAL CAMERON HASN'T DONE HE DOESN'T HAVE THE TROOPERS THAT AND ANDY BESHEAR DOES HAVE.

ONE THING HE HAS DONE HE WORKED WITH MIAMI TO GET THOUSANDS OF PILLS OFF THE STREETS.

THAT WERE COMING INTO KENTUCKY HE HAS DONE DANIEL CAMERON HAS DONE THINGS.

>> AND GOVERNOR BESHEAR DID THAT WHEN HE WAS ATTORNEY GENERAL AS WELL.

HE HAD A STRONG RECORD AS ATTORNEY GENERAL WHICH IS A BIG PIECE OF WHY HE WON THE GOVERNOR'S RACE.

BECAUSE HE TACKLED HUMAN TRAFFICKING, TACKLED THE OPIOIDS PART OF THAT OPIOID SETTLEMENT HE HAS HIS OWN RECORD WHEN HE WAS ATTORNEY GENERAL SO WE CAN GO BACK AND TALK ABOUT THAT HISTORY.

THERE IS A LOT OF ISSUES THAT VOTERS WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHEN IT COMES TO THE GOVERNOR'S RACE.

AT THE END OF THE DAY, THEY WANT TO ELECT SOMEONE WHO THEY THINK IS GOING TO DO THE RIGHT THING AT THE RIGHT TIME EVERY TIME.

THEY ARE NOT GOING TO AGREE WITH THE GOVERNOR ON EVERY POLICY IF THEY WERE THEY WOULD BE THE GOVERNOR.

NOBODY AGREES WITH ANY ONE PERSON ON ANYTHING ON THE AGENDA.

BUT THE GOVERNOR HAS A SPECIAL CONNECTION WITH THIS COMMONWEALTH LEADING THROUGH THE PANDEMIC.

PEOPLE SAW HIM EVERY AFTERNOON WHEN HE GAVE HIS TEAM KENTUCKY UPDATE.

THEY THINK HE IS AN HONEST, TRUSTWORTHY PERSON AND THAT IS WHY HIS APPROVAL RATING IS THE HIGHEST IN THE COUNTRY OF ALL DEMOCRATIC GOVERNORS AND ONE OF THE HIGHEST IN THE COUNTRY PERIOD.

AND THAT IS WHY HE WILL WIN REELECTION.

>> HE IS A WARTIME PRESIDENT AND I DON'T THINK ANYBODY IS NAIVE TO THAT.

AND YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT A TRAUMA BOND AND WE CAN GO THROUGH THE EVALUATION OF THAT BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN EVERYBODY THINKS HE HANDLED IT CORRECTLY.

AND IT DOESN'T MEAN THINKS HIS DECISIONS WERE THE RIGHT DECISIONS THAT WERE IN TOUCH WITH KENTUCKY VALUES.

>> I THINK MOST PEOPLE THINK HE TRIED TO DO THE RIGHT THING.

AND THAT'S WHY HE HAS HIGH MARKS.

>> I THINK HE WAS OUT OF TOUCH WITH THE AVERAGE KENTUCKIAN.

>> I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT EARLY ON.

NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.

BUT THE EXCESSES WERE FAR TOO MUCH.

THAT IS WHY, AGAIN, THE WE JUST GOTCHAS ADVERTISED BY THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT I'M EMBARRASSED THAT IS ONE OF THE SINGLE CIVIL RIGHTS PROBLEM IN OUR COUNTRY.

I'M JUST TELLING IT STRAIGHT NOW.

HE LOST THE MAJORITY DEMOCRAT HE LOST SEVEN-ZERO SAYING HE WENT TOO FAR.

I AGREE WITH YOUR STATEMENT HE TRIED TO DO THE RIGHT THING EARLY ON AND LOOK WHAT IT HAS ROUGHT.

>> THE GOVERNOR'S APPROVAL RATING DOES NOT AGREE WITH THAT.

THE CITIZENS OF KENTUCKY THINKS HE DID A GOOD JOB.

>> THE YOU WILL MALT APPROVAL RATING WILL BE ON ELECTION DAY.

AND WE'LL HAVE THAT ARGUMENT.

>> Renee: LET'S TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE DOWN BALLOT RACES.

ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE, YOU HAVE DANIEL CAMERON, YOU HAVE A STRONG ATTORNEY GENERAL CANDIDATE IN RUSSELL COLEMAN.

MANY PEOPLE ARE SAYING SO WE KNOW THAT THE ATTORNEY GENERAL MAY HAVE HAVE MORE POWER THAN THE GOVERNOR WHEN IT COMES TO CERTAIN THINGS CONSIDERED WHAT HAS HAPPENED.

BUT SOME MAY BE CONCERNED WHAT ABOUT THE CHECKS AND BALANCES?

IF THE AG'S OFFICE NEEDS TO INVESTIGATE THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE AND YET RUN BY HIS BEST FRIEND HAS A CHILD NAMED AFTER HIM, HOW WILL HE INSURE THERE IS APPROPRIATE INDEPENDENCE AND ACCOUNTABILITY FOR A FRIEND?

>> THAT IS A BETTER QUESTION FOR THE DEMOCRATS.

RUSSELL COLEMAN WAS THE WESTERN DISTRICT U.S. ATTORNEY APPOINTED BY TRUMP.

HE HAS HIS OWN CHOPS.

HE HAS HIS OWN RESUME AND OWN ACCOMPLISHMENTS.

THERE IS NOT ANYBODY IN THE STATE MORE TAILOR MADE FOR THE ROLE OF ATTORNEY GENERAL THAN RUSSELL COLEMAN.

HE PROVED HIMSELF TO BE A MAN OF INTEGRITY.

AND USED INDEPENDENCE IN ALL OF HIS DEALINGS IN THE STATE OF KENTUCKY.

WHAT WAS A DEMOCRAT STATE NOW A CONSERVATIVE STATE A TRUMP APPOINTEE.

>> Renee: AND SO SO ANSWER THE QUESTION THAT WAS POSED?

>> THERE ARE CHECKS AND BALANCES THAT EXIST, RENEE, BOTH WITHIN STATUTE AND JUST WITHIN DEALINGS BETWEEN WHAT CAN GO ON BETWEEN HOW ATTORNEYS GENERAL CAN INVESTIGATE GOVERNORS.

WE'VE OBVIOUSLY SEEN THE BOUNDARIES PUSHED WHEN YOU HAVE THEM OF OPPOSING PARTIES WHEN YOU HAD MATT BEVIN AND ANDY BESHEAR.

SO I THINK A LOT OF THE CHECKS AND BALANCES ALREADY EXIST.

>> .

>> AND THE LEGISLATURE SHOULD BE ANOTHER CHECK AND BALANCE.

MAYBE.

>> RENEE, RUSSELL COLEMAN I'VE KNOWN HIM FOR SOMETIME THERE IS NOBODY MORE HUMBLE THAN RUSSELL COLEMAN.

HE WOULD PROSECUTE ME IF I DID WRONG.

RUSSELL COLEMAN WORKED WITH THE DEMOCRATIC ESTABLISHMENT WHEN HE WAS A U.S. ATTORNEY FOR WESTERN DISTRICT OF KENTUCKY.

I DON'T THINK YOU'VE GOT ANYBODY IN KENTUCKY THAT IS GOING TO SAY SOMETHING BAD WITH RUSSELL COLEMAN.

THEY MAY TAKE A SHOT BUT THERE'S NOBODY REPUBLICAN OR DEMOCRAT IS GOING TO SAY ANYTHING BAD ABOUT RUSSELL COLEMAN HE WILL DO THE JOB AND HE WAS MADE FOR THE JOB.

>> Renee: IF HE WAS MADE OF THIS JOB WHAT IS COLONEL PAM STEVENSON WHAT IS GOING TO BE HER REBUTTAL.

>> COLONEL STEVENSON SERVED AS A JAG OFFICER IN THE AIR FORCE FOR MORE THAN 25 YEARS PROSECUTING CASES THAT AFFECTED MILITARY FAMILIES LIKE RAPE, INCEST, VIOLENT CRIMES, SHE CONTINUED THAT WORK AFTER SHE EXITED THE AIR FORCE AND IS HELPING CURRENTLY MILITARY FAMILIES, THOSE FOLKS THAT YOU KNOW MAYBE WOULD NOT OTHERWISE HAVE ACCESS TO LEGAL HELP.

SHE IS HELPING THOSE FOLKS IN LOUISVILLE.

THAT IS A DIFFERENT SET OF SKILL.

BECAUSE YOU REALLY ARE SERVING THE UNDERSERVED.

YOU ARE SEEING THE FOLKS THAT YOUR OFFICE COULD POTENTIALLY HELP AND LIFT UP AS OPPOSED TO WHITE-COLLAR CRIMES THAT ARE HAPPENING IN FEDERAL DISTRICT COURT YOU ARE LIFTING UP THE MOST BASIC KENTUCKIANS.

SHE IS FIERY, SHE IS PASSIONATE AND SHE IS WILLING TO WORK TO GET THE JOB DONE.

>> Renee: AND SHE HAS A LIBERAL VOTING RECORD IN THE KENTUCKY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.

MANY WOULD SAY SHE IS OUT OF STEP WITH QUOTE-UNQUOTE KENTUCKY VALUES LEANING MORE AND MORE CONSERVATIVE AND REPUBLICAN.

SHE HAS BEEN VERY FOCAL ABOUT ABORTION AND ANTIABORTION MEASURES AND THE SB150 AND TRANSGENDER ISSUES.

IS SHE TOO MUCH OF A LIBERAL PROGRESSIVE TO SERVE THE STATE WELL?

>> I DON'T THINK SHE IS LISTENING TO MY REPUBLICAN COUNTERPARTS TONIGHT IT WOULD APPEAR THAT THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE HAS BEEN NEUTERED BECAUSE DANIEL CAMERON HAS NOT BEEN RESPONSIBLE FOR MUCH APPARENTLY.

SO YOU KNOW, IF THAT IS THE CASE, EITHER WAY, SHE WILL BE GREAT.

SHE IS WILLING TO EMPOWER THAT OFFICE.

SHE IS WILLING TO EMPOWER KENTUCKIANS AND SHE WILL INSURE SHE GETS EVERY VIEWPOINT BEFORE SHE MAKES A DECISION IF SHE REACHES THE POST OF ATTORNEY GENERAL.

>> Renee: ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD TON THAT?

>> PAM STEVENSON IS AN HONORABLE PERSON.

SHE COMES TO HER VIEWS WHICH ARE FAR LEFT SHE COMES TO THEM HONESTLY.

SHE IS A PERSON OF HIGH INTEGRITY AND I'M NOT JUST SAYING THIS BECAUSE SHE IS A COLLEAGUE.

HER VIEWS ARE NOT IN LINE WITH WHAT KENTUCKY'S ARE.

I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SEEN HER RUN FOR ATTORNEY GENERAL IN JEFFERSON COUNTY.

BUT ATTORNEY GENERAL IS THAT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

>> Renee: ANYTHING ELSE ON THAT?

>> I WOULD SAY I THINK IT'S UP TO THE VOTERS OF KENTUCKY TO DECIDE WHERE THEIR PRIORITIES AND VIEWS ARE.

PAMELA GREW UP IN OCTOBER GROVE MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH SHE'S GOT A VERY RELIGIOUS BACKGROUND SHE IS AN ORDAINED MINISTER AND BRINGS THE VALUES WITH HER TO FRANKFURT AS A REPRESENTATIVE BUT SHE WILL BRING THE VALUES ACROSS THE CHEMICAL AS SHE IS CAMPAIGNING FOR THE OFFICE OF ATTORNEY GENERAL AND SHE HAS THE PASSION.

IF YOU WATCHED HER GIVE A SPEECH ON THE FLOOR OF THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY SHE REALLY DEEPLY CARES ABOUT WHAT SHE IS SAYING.

AND I HAVE NEVER MET SOMEONE WHO SPOKE WITH MORE ENTHUSIASM ABOUT THOSE ISSUES THAT SHE CARES ABOUT THAN I HAVE COLONEL PAM STEVENSON.

>> Renee: LET'S TALK ABOUT FACTORS OR X FACTORS.

TRUMP AND McCONNELL.

WHEN JONATHAN MILLER JOHN WE HAD HIM ON THE -- JONATHAN SHELL LAST TUESDAY AND WE ASKED ABOUT McCONNELL AND WE KNOW SHELL PUT TENS OF THOUSANDS OF MILES ON HIS PICKUP TRUCK WHEN McCONNELL WAS RUNNING FOR REELECTION IN 2020 AND ASKED ABOUT HOW HE WOULD USE McCONNELL HE SAYS I AM MY OWN MAN.

WE'RE GOING TO HEAR THAT RESPONSE FROM A DANIEL CAMERON?

I AM MY OWN MAN?

>> SURE, I THINK WE GOT A PREVIEW OF THAT IN THE PRIMARY WHERE OTHER CAMPAIGNS IN THE PRIMARY WERE TRYING TO PAINT DANIEL IN A CORNER HE IS A McCONNELL PERSON AND A TRUMP PERSON HE IS A THIS PERSON AND WE DID NOT SEE THAT PAN OUT VERY WELL.

IT DIDN'T TRANSLATE TO VOTERS.

I THINK WE'VE SEEN THAT EPISODE.

>> Renee: SO McCONNELL WILL BE A NONFACTOR GOING FORWARD TO NOVEMBER?

HE WON'T BE HELPING CAMERON OR SHELL OR ANYONE ON THE REPUBLICAN TICKETS?

>> THE BIGGEST SUPPORTER OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.

>> Renee: I MEAN IN MORE OF A VISIBLE ROLE NOT JUST BEHIND THE SCENES.

>> SHE ADMITTED TO IT ABOUT McCONNELL'S APPROVAL RATINGS HE IS AN UNPOPULAR POLITICAL FIGURE.

>> Renee: YET HE GETS REELECTED.

>> THE DEMOCRATS LOVE TO SAY THAT BEFORE HE WINS.

SENATOR McCONNELL HAS EXPERTISE TO PUT AT THE TABLE AND SO DOES SENATOR RAND PAUL AND HE IS IN DANIEL CAMERON'S SPEED DIAL JUST AS MUCH AS SENATOR McCONNELL IS AND PRESIDENT TRUMP.

>> THAT'S THE PROBLEM, THOUGH.

>> I DON'T THINK THAT IS THE PROBLEM.

>> WE NEED A GOVERNOR WHO IS AN INDEPENDENT.

YOU DON'T WANT SOMEBODY WHO IS IN THE POCKET.

HE SAID SPEED DIAL.

>> THAT IS A GOOD THING AND I WANT HIM TO HAVE THE SPEED DIAL ON McCARVEY, TOO.

OUR ATTORNEY GENERAL AND OUR GOVERNOR TO HAVE CLOSE RELATIONSHIP WITH OUR FEDERAL DELEGATION.

THE ATTACK IS THAT DANIEL CAMERON IS GOING TO BE THE ACCOLADE OF SENATOR McCONNELL AND THE FACTS DON'T BEAR THAT OUT.

>> YOU WANT A GOVERNOR TO BE AN INDEPENDENT STEWART OF THAT OFFICE AND OF THE COMMONWEALTH.

AND YOU CAN'T HAVE A GOVERNOR WHO ATTRIBUTES THEIR LINEAGE AND THEIR BRINGING UP INTO THE POLITICAL SYSTEM TO THE SENATOR AND NOT EXPECT THEM -- >> IS THAT WHAT DANIEL CAMERON HAS DONE?

I MISSED THAT MAILER.

>> I THINK THAT IS HOW HE GOT STARTED.

>> I THINK YOUR GUY ANDY BESHEAR WAS BORN ON THIRD BASE AND TELLING EVERYBODY HE HIT A TRIPLE.

AND I'M NOT UPSET THAT ANDY BESHEAR AND JOE BIDEN ARE CLOSE.

I'M FINE WITH THAT.

ANDY BESHEAR AND JOE BIDEN ARE CLOSE.

I GOT IT.

I WANT MY GOVERNOR TO HAVE A LOT OF ADVISERS.

IF YOU THINK HE IS GOING TO BE MITCH McCONNELL'S ACCOLADE WHEN HE HAS TRUMP AND RAND PAUL I'M NOT SURE THERE'S BEST FRIENDSHIPS THAT IS A GOOD THING.

I WANT OUR GOVERNOR TO HAVE ADVICE FROM ALL OVER THE COMMONWEALTH OF KENTUCKY INCLUDING THE FORMER PRESIDENT AND BOTH SENATORS.

>> Renee: IF YOU WERE ADVISING NOMINEE CAMERON RIGHT NOW, WHO WOULD YOU ADVICE HIM TO -- ADVISE HIM TO PICK AS HIS RUNNING MATE?

>> I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT.

MY FRIENDS ON THE OTHER SIDE BETTER HOPE IT DOESN'T MATTER.

SHE WAS IN CHARGE OF THE UNEMPLOYMENT DEBACLE.

I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER.

RENEE WE HAVE SUCH A -- >> Renee: DOES IT NOT MAKE SENSE TO PICK NUMBER TWO, RYAN QUARLES.

>> HE IS SOMEBODY EVERY SIDE -- >> Renee: DOES HE WANT IT?

>> I DON'T KNOW.

I WILL LET OTHER PEOPLE.

>> JULIA PROBABLY KNOWS.

>> MY STATE SENATOR WOULD BE A WONDERFUL CHOICE.

>> IS SHE INTERESTED?

>> I WILL LET OTHER PEOPLE SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES.

[ALL TALKING AT ONCE] >> Renee: WE'RE GOING TO GET AN ANSWER BEFORE IT'S OVER.

>> THE POINT I WANT TO MAKE IS THIS WE HAVE A DEEP BENCH OF YOUNG STRONG CONSERVATIVES IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY THEY HAVE TO BEG PEOPLE TO GET THEIR NAME ON THE BALLOT.

WE ARE STRONG PARTY IN KENTUCKY AND DANIEL CAMERON COULD LIST 30 PEOPLE AND THROW A DART WE HAVE A STRONG PARTY AND HE WILL MAKE THE RIGHT CHOICE.

>> SPIRITED PRIMARIES THAT IS WHY THE REPUBLICAN TURNOUT WAS GREATER THAN IT'S EVER BEEN IN AN OFF YEAR ELECTION SINCE ERNIE FLETCHER AND WE HAVE MORE REPUBLICANS NOW THAN WE DID THEN.

>> Renee: THE 80% THAT DIDN'T VOTE?

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS SOMETHING TO BRAG ABOUT THAT IS IN BOTH PRIMARIES.

>> BUT, YOU KNOW, THE REPUBLICANS HAD A REAL PRIMARY ON THEIR SIDE AND THEY BARELY HAD MORE TURNOUT THAN THE DEMOCRATS HAD IN TOTAL ON OUR SIDE IN THE PRIMARY.

>> I THINK IT WAS 150%.

>> 11 PEOPLE BY A HIGHER PERCENTAGE THAN ANDY BESHEAR BEAT, TOO.

>> MORE PEOPLE NEED TO VOTE.

I DON'T THINK ANYBODY IS GOING TO DISAGREE WITH THAT.

>> Renee: STILL DID NOT GET AN ANSWER TO THE QUESTION.

>> I THINK THERE WILL BE A LOT OF PRESSURE TO LOOK AT RYAN QUARLES.

>> HE HAS UNTIL THE SECOND WEEK OF OFFICE.

>> A NEW CHANGE I THINK THIS IS REALLY A GOOD TEST CASE FOR US TO SEE HOW MUCH IMPACT CAN A LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR HAVE ON A CAMPAIGN GOING INTO A GENERAL.

THEY DID NOT HAVE TO RUN AS A SLATE.

I THINK FOR AMBASSADOR CRAFT'S CAMPAIGN IT MADE MORE SENSE SHE DID NOT HAVE THE NATURAL CONSTITUENCY THAT RYAN QUARLES OR DANIEL CAMERON DID BUILT IN THAT SAME WIDE NAME ID.

IT MADE SENSE FOR HER CAMPAIGN TO CHOOSE SOMEBODY EARLY BUT THIS IS A GOOD TEST CASE FROM A POLITICAL SCIENCE PERSPECTIVE.

>> Renee: WOULD YOU SAY WAIT UNTIL AUGUST 8TH BEFORE YOU PICK?

IF YOU HAVE A STRONG NUMBER TWO GET THEM OUT THERE WITH YOU AND POUND IT.

>> SURE.

I DO.

I THINK.

>> Renee: YOU WOULD SAY JULIA WHAT WOULD BE A GOOD DATE TO HAVE PICKED A RUNNING MATE?

>> ANYTIME BEFORE AUGUST 8TH.

[LAUGHTER] >> Renee: THAT IS WHY I LIKE HER.

WELL, THIS IS A DONE DEAL HERE.

BUT THE OFFICE OF LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR, I MEAN REALLY, AS FAR AS THE STRENGTH OF THE OFFICE, YOU DO DO WHAT THE COMMAND NUMBER ONE WANTS YOU TO DO DO YOU THINK IT'S PERSUASIVE FOR A VOTER THAT THE NUMBER 2 IS?

>> I BELIEVE SO.

ANDY BESHEAR AND HIS ELECTION FOR GOVERNOR PICKED JACQUELINE COLEMAN.

SHE SPOKE TO THE EDUCATION ISSUE OF THE MOMENT WHICH IS STILL THE ISSUE OF THE MOMENT THAT HAS NOT CHANGED.

AND YOU SAW SHE HELPED LIFT UP THAT CAMPAIGN AND SPOKE TO PEOPLE WHO HAD ABSOLUTELY FELT CUT OUT OF THE POLITICAL PROCESS.

>> Renee: TALKING ABOUT EDUCATORS.

>> CORRECT.

>> Renee: DOES THAT STILL WORK THIS TIME AROUND?

>> IT DOES.

LOOK, EDUCATORS ARE STILL WORKING FOR ESSENTIALLY THE SAME SALARIES THAT THEY HAVE BEEN.

THEY ARE FACING CENSORSHIP ISSUES WITHIN THE CLASSROOM.

THEY ARE NOT BEING INCLUDED IN THE POLITICAL PROCESS LIKE THEY WOULD HOPE TO BE.

SO, YES, SHE SPEAKS TO PEOPLE ON THAT LEVEL.

AND.

>> Renee: THAT MAY NOT BE AS STRONG AS THE PENSION SITUATION AND THE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE DRIVING THOSE DISCUSSIONS.

>> I DISAGREE.

>> WITH LEARNING LOSS FROM COVID.

>> I DISAGREE.

I THINK FOR EVERY PERSON THAT KNOWS HAS A STUDENT IN SCHOOL OR WHO KNOWS A TEACHER AND LOVES THE TEACHER THOSE ARE REAL ISSUES.

I DON'T HAVE CHILDREN BUT I HOPE TO ONE DAY AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE MY POLITICAL LEADERS ARE FOLKS THAT HAVE THE BEST IN MIND FOR OUR CHILDREN AND THOSE THAT ARE TAKING CARE OF THEM EVERYDAY AT SCHOOL.

SHE HELPS ELEVATE THAT ISSUE.

>> WE KNOW THAT DANIEL CAMERON IS A DIFFERENT OPPONENT THAN ANDY BESHEAR HAD LAST TIME.

DANIEL CAMERON IS GOING TO BE THE GOVERNOR FOR THE CLASSROOM TEACHER.

GOVERNOR BESHEAR SHOWED HE IS THE CANDIDATE FOR THE UNION BOSS.

>> Renee: HE TOOK UP THE TEACHER PAY INCREASE AFTER THE GOVERNOR PROPOSED IT.

HE DOES HAVE THINGS IN COMMON.

>> HIS WIFE IS A TEACHER.

HE WILL BE THE GOVERNOR FOR THE CLASSROOM TEACHER.

WE NEED TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT WHAT THE GOVERNOR HAS DONE.

THE FIRST DAY IN OFFICE THAT HE SWEAR TO UPHOLD THE CONSTITUTION WHAT HE DID DO?

HE OBLITERATED THE BOARD OF EDUCATION HE KNOCKED ALL OUT WHICH WERE BIPARTISAN, REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS AND APPOINTED 12 DEMOCRATS SEVEN CONTRIBUTED TO HIS CAMPAIGN.

THE NEXT DAY THEY GET RID OF THE COMMISSIONER OF EDUCATION APPOINTED BY A BIPARTISAN GROUP AND THEY PUT THIS GUY IN THERE JASON GLASS MAKES $280,000 A YEAR.

AND WHAT DID HE TELL TEACHERS?

HE LOOKED THEM IN THE EYE AND SAID IF YOU WANT TO CALL A BOY A BOY AND YOU WON'T FOLLOW THE RULES YOU NEED TO FIND ANOTHER JOB.

DANIEL CAMERON IS NOT GOING TO BE THE GOVERNOR FOR THE TEACHERS' UNIONS.

DANIEL CAMERON IS GOING TO BE THE GOVERNOR FOR THE CLASSROOM TEACHERS AND THE PARENTS.

I'VE HAD A NUMBER OF PARENTS TALK TO ME, DEMOCRATS I'VE KNOWN FOR 20 YEARS SHE WAS THE MOST LIBERAL PERSON, AND SHE CALLED ME OUT OF THE BLUE AND SAID JASON YOU GOT ME.

WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

SHE SAID I NEED TO TURN REPUBLICAN.

AND I SAID TELL ME WHY?

AND SHE SAID THIS GOVERNOR IS OUT OF CONTROL.

MY KIDS NEED TO BE IN SCHOOL.

DANIEL CAMERON UNDERSTANDS THAT.

HE IS GOING TO BE THE GOVERNOR FOR THE PARENT WHO WANTS CHOICE AND HE IS GOING TO BE THE GOVERNOR FOR THE CLASSROOM TEACHER THIS GOVERNOR IS THE GOVERNOR FOR THE TEACHERS' UNION.

>> PERHAPS HE KNOWS MORE THAN WE DO WE HAVE NOT HEARD EDUCATION POLICIES SPECIFICS FROM DANIEL CAMERON.

I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW HOW HE IS GOING TO BE THE GOVERNOR FOR THE CLASSROOM.

>> Renee: SCHOOL CHOICE HE MAY ELEVATE.

>> SCHOOL CHOICE.

>> Renee: WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE?

>> I THINK WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE IS THE MOM AND DAD MIDDLE CLASS AND LOWER CLASS OF ECONOMICS, HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY LIKE I DO.

MY WIFE AND I WE SEND OUR KIDS TO PRIVATE SCHOOLS AND THERE ARE A NUMBER OF MY FRIENDS WHO TEACH IN JCPS WHO MOVED TO OWED DEM COUNTY.

A NUMBER OF THEM THEY SEND THEIR KIDS TO SCHOOLS THEY THINK IS NOT RIGHT FOR THAT KID.

WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IN OUR PARTY AND I WILL LET DANIEL CAMERON SPEAK FOR HIS OWN, WHAT SCHOOL CHOICES TRIES TO SAY, HEY, MOM, YOU MIGHT BE STRUGGLING BUT WE'RE TRYING TO HELP YOU HERE.

IF THE SCHOOL YOUR KID IS IN ISN'T RIGHT WE WILL GIVE YOU MORE OPTIONS.

AND BECAUSE THIS GOVERNOR IS THE GOVERNOR OF THE TEACHERS' UNION HE SAYS NO YOU MAY NOT DO T YOUR KID IN A SCHOOL THAT MIGHT NOT BE RIGHT FOR THAT KID.

AND MOST PUBLIC SCHOOLS ARE GOOD FOR KIDS.

THAT MOM SHOULD HAVE A CHOICE THIS GOVERNOR SAYS NO YOU SHOULDN'T.

>> TO SAY THE GOVERNOR IS A GOVERNOR OF THE TEACHERS' UNION IT IS A GOOD LINE TO PUT ON TWITTER BUT IF YOU WERE TO ASK TEACHERS IN THE COMMONWEALTH IF YOU WOULD MAKE THIS ELECTION BE LITIGATED AND VOTED ON JUST BY THE TEACHERS, GOVERNOR BESHEAR WOULD WIN IN A LANDSLIDE.

THAT IS BOTTOM LINE.

THE TEACHERS TRUST HIM THEY WERE FOR HIM LAST TIME AND THEY WILL BE FOR HIM THIS TIME.

ON THE OTHER POINT ABOUT SCHOOL CHOICE, YOU KNOW, IF WE WANT A BETTER EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM WE NEED TO PUT ALL THE RESOURCES AND HELP WE CAN INTO THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

AND SCHOOL CHOICE HAS BEEN [ALL TALKING AT ONCE] ACROSS THE COUNTRY IN SEVERAL OTHER STATES AND THEY HAVE FAILED AND PLENTY OF OTHER STATES ROLLED BACK SCHOOL CHOICE PROGRAMS BECAUSE THEY DO NOT WORK.

FOR-PROFIT SCHOOL CHOICES WILL OBLITERATE OUR PUBLIC.

>> PUBLICS ARE NOT ALLOWED IN THE CHARTER SCHOOL IN KENTUCKY.

IT WAS VOTED IN THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY.

>> TAKING THINGS TO THE SUPREME COURT GENERAL ASSEMBLY LOST THAT ONE.

LET ME SAY THIS.

PRESIDENT OBAMA -- >> FOR-PROFITS WERE NEVER IN THE BILL.

>> PRESIDENT OBAMA SUPPORTS SCHOOL CHOICE, MARYLAND, CALIFORNIA, MASSACHUSETTS.

AND WE DON'T HAVE IT IN KENTUCKY BECAUSE THE GOVERNOR WERE STOOGES OF THE TEACHERS' UNION.

>> Renee: THE COURT STOPPED IT.

>> THE CONSTITUTION STOPPED IT.

>> THE TEACHERS' UNION DO GOOD STUFF IN THIS STATE TRYING TO IMPROVE THE PAY OF TEACHERS AND I FULLY SUPPORT THAT.

BUT WHERE I DISAGREE WITH THEM IS ON SCHOOL CHOICE.

AND OUR SCHOOLS WERE SHUTDOWN TOO LONG AND THEY WERE SHUTDOWN THOUGH TEACHERS AND PARENTS WANTED TO GO BACK TO SCHOOL BECAUSE THE NATIONAL TEACHERS' UNION AND THE STATE TEACHERS' UNION DID NOT WANT TO GO AND BESHEAR STOPPED IT.

>> Renee: AND WE WILL TALK MORE ABOUT SCHOOL CHOICE.

>> IT PASSED WITH FLYING COLORS.

>> Renee: LET'S TALK ABOUT A FEW OF THE OTHERS LET'S GET THE DOWN BALLOT.

WE TALKED ABOUT ATTORNEY GENERAL AND TALKED ABOUT AG.

ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SAY ABOUT THE DEMOCRATICKER IS REENLOW?

>> SHE IS WORKING HARD WITH GOVERNOR BESHEAR SHE IS A FIRST-TIME STATE CANDIDATE AND WORKING ON GETTING HER NAME ID OUT THERE.

>> Renee: AND AGAINST SOMEBODY WHO HAS A LOT OF NAME RECOGNITION AND SUPPORT.

>> AND KUDOS FOR HER TO THROWING THEIR NAME IS.

JONATHAN SHELL IS NOT A LIGHT WAIT BUT HE DID LOSE IN A PRIMARY.

>> Renee: SECRETARY OF STATE MICHAEL ADAMS.

DEMOCRATS LIKE HIM.

CHAD AULL THIS IS GOING TO BE TOUGH?

>> I THINK MICHAEL ADAMS YOU KNOW IS A LIKABLE GUY.

YOU CAN TALK TO HIM IN THE HALLWAY I'VE HAD SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS WITH HIM.

YOU KNOW, BUDDY WHEELY REPRESENTATIVE BUDDY WHEELY IS JUST AS LIKABLE.

HE SERVED AS A FIREFIGHTER FOUR GENERATIONS IN THE CITY AND SERVED AS THE FIRE CHIEF FOR THE CITY AND DECIDED TO GO TO LAW SCHOOL AND BECOME AN ATTORNEY.

HE SERVED TWO TERMS IN THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY.

HE IS DEDICATED HIS ENTIRE CAREER AND LIFE TO PUBLIC SERVICE AND HE IS THE KIND OF PERSON THAT WE WANT RUNNING FOR THIS OFFICE.

AND YOU KNOW, KENTUCKY IS ONE OF THE HARDEST STATES IN THE COUNTRY TO CAST A BALLOT.

AND REPRESENTATIVE WHEATLY IS TALKING ABOUT HOW WE NEED TO MAKE VOTING EASIER.

LAST YEAR, WHEN I VOTED IN THE GENERAL, IT WAS THE LONGEST WAIT IN LINE THAT I HAVE PARTICIPATED IN SINCE I WAS 18 YEARS OLD AND CAST MY FIRST BALLOT.

SO WE'VE GOT TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR PEOPLE TO CAST THEIR LEGAL BALLOT IN KENTUCKY AND THAT IS WHAT BUDDY WHEATLY IS FOR.

>> SECRETARY OF STATE MICHAEL ADAMS BELIEVES IN MAKING VOTING EASIER AND I KNOW BUDDY WHEATLY AGREES SO MUCH SO THAT HE VOTED IN SUPPORT OF ADAMS ON VOTING.

ONE PERSON HAS LED ON IT AND THE OTHER HASN'T.

>> MIKE ADAMS RAN ON EASY TO VOTE AND HARD TO CHEAT.

WE HAVE PHOTO ID.

WE HAVE.

>> Renee: EARLY VOTING.

>> THREE DAYS OF EARLY VOTING.

THESE ARE THE THINGS PEOPLE WANT AND MIKE ADAMS GOT ACCOMPLISHED BUDDY WHEATLY IS A GOOD MAN BUT HIS CAMPAIGN IS WITH ALL DUE RESPECT HIS CAMPAIGN IS I SUPPORTED MIKE ADAMS BILLS SO YOU SHOULD VOTE FOR ME.

AND THEY ARE DANGEROUS RIGHT.

THE ONES HE IS FOR THAT MIKE WAS AGAINST PHOTO ID WHO WOULD BE AGAINST THAT THAT IS SILLY.

BUT WHAT HE IS FOR HE IS FOR UNIVERSAL MAIL-IN VOTING WE SEND A█ BALLOT TO EVERY INDIVIDUAL PERSON THOSE ARE DANGEROUS AND EXTREMELY COSTLY.

EFFECTIVELY THOSE THINGS ARE WILD.

I SUPPORTED MIKE ADAMS HIS BILL SO YOU SHOULD VOTE FOR ME.

>> HE PROPOSED LEGISLATION IN 2019 OR 2020 THAT WOULD EXPAND VOTING HOURS TO 7:00 P.M.

WHICH IS ALLOWED WHICH WAS NOT TAKEN UP BY THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY.

AND.

>> Renee: SECRETARY ADAMS SUPPORTS.

>> HE DOES.

>> AND HE ALSO FILED ONE OF THE PROVISIONS IN THE LEGISLATION WAS TO EXPAND I BELIEVE IT UP TO TWO WEEKS FOR EARLY VOTING.

WHICH SECRETARY ADAMS DOES NOT SUPPORT.

>> IF YOU GO EARLY VOTING IN THE THREE DAYS THERE'S NOT LINES.

>> Renee: WHY HASN'T THE LEGISLATURE ALLOWED THE EXTENDED POLLING?

>> THE CLERKS TELL US IT'S DIFFICULT.

AND SO IN LIEU OF DOING THAT WE ADDED THE THREE DAYS OF EARLY VOTING.

IT WAS A NEGOTIATION TYPE THING.

>> Renee: WHAT STATE AUDITOR?

LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT RACE.

WE BELIEVE THAT ALLISON BALL WHO HAS BEEN TWO-TERM STATE TREASURER, PRETTY STRONG CANDIDATE.

>> SHE IS A WORKHORSE.

SHE HAS BEEN A WATCHDOG FOR THE KENTUCKY TAXPAYER IN BOTH HER TERMS.

IT'S BEEN GREAT AS A CONSERVATIVE WOMAN TO SEE HER AND HER CAREER HAVING CHILDREN AND A FAMILY WHILE DOING BOTH TERMS AS TREASURER.

>> Renee: I THINK THE FIRST TO HAVE A CHILD WHILE IN OFFICE.

>> YES.

IT'S BEEN A GREAT CAREER AND I DON'T ANTICIPATE HER HAVING AN ISSUE.

>> Renee: KIMBERLY READER.

>> SHE HAS A GREAT BACKGROUND IMPRESSIVE EDUCATIONAL CREDENTIALS WENT TO YALE, DUKE, UNC LAW SCHOOL AND I THINK THAT IS WHAT YOU WANT IN AN AUDITOR SOMEBODY WHO HAS THAT EDUCATIONAL PEDIGREE AND THAT RECORD AS AN ATTORNEY AND THE TAX FIELD THAT IS PERFECT FOR THE ROLE OF AUDITOR.

SHE IS A PROUD ROUND COUNTY PERSON WHO GREW UP AND MOVED BACK WHEN HER MOTHER GOT SICK AND HELPED WITH HER FAMILY.

SHE HAS IMPECCABLE CREDENTIALS.

>> Renee: WE MISSED THAT ONE AND THAT IS STATE TREASURER, ATTORNEY MARK METCALF AGAINST MICHAEL BOWMAN.

>> I LEARNED SOMETHING ABOUT MARK METCALF HE RAN FOR CONGRESS, AND LOST TO EARN ANY FLETCHER BY FOUR VOTES.

SO MARK HAS BEEN AROUND FOR A LONGTIME AND BEEN A DEDICATED PUBLIC SERVANT AND PUBLIC OFFICE FOR A LONGTIME.

MICHAEL BOWMAN.

>> ARE YOU GOING TO VOTE FOR HIM.

>> Renee: 10 SECONDS.

>> MICHAEL BOWMAN IS THE DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE FROM LOUISVILLE GREAT INDIVIDUAL WORKED IN THE BESHEAR ADMINISTRATION AND WANTS TO FOCUS ON HELPING WITH THE UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE THING.

>> Renee: WE HAVE TO CUT YOU OFF.

THAT IS MINE.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US TONIGHT WE'RE OFF TOMORROW.

WE'RE OFF MONDAY BECAUSE OF OBSERVANCE OF MEMORIAL DAY WEEKEND WE HOPE YOU HAVE A GREAT ONE AND WE'LL SEE YOU ON KENTUCKY EDITION EACH WEEKNIGHT AT 6:30.

TAKE GOOD CARE.